6a Alarma: Se registrá uno de los peores incendios en San Francisco (USA)
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Pense que era un video de San Francisco. Esta bueno el video, recuerdo que cuando aquel incidente sucedio, bastante se comento en internet y revistas del mercado. Yo creo que todo bombero se razca la cabeza cuando ve esto.
No entiendo si, la relacion con la 6ta alarma de San Francisco, ya que son lugares muy extremos y completamente muy distintos bomberilmente hablando.
No entiendo si, la relacion con la 6ta alarma de San Francisco, ya que son lugares muy extremos y completamente muy distintos bomberilmente hablando.
Extracto desde http://fireworld.com/Archives/tabid/93/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/87278/Swept-Away.aspx
"...INCIDENT COMMANDHudgins joined one of his engines on the west side and established incident command. Following standard procedure, he designated the main entrance side of the building facing north as Division A, the east side as Division B, the south side as Division C and the west side as Division D.
“I told one of my engines to set up an unmanned monitor to aim through a loading dock doorway about 10-to-15 yards east of what had been the cherry red spot,” Hudgins said. “That spot was now gone, with flames coming through the wall.”
Within six minutes of Hudgins’ establishing incident command, the gray smoke rising from the building began turning black. He grew concerned that the fire was spreading into different products, he said.
Putting firefighters inside the building was out of the question, he said. His first plan was to combine the unmanned monitor with a ladder pipe in the open doorway and hopefully confine the fire to the 20 percent of the building already affected. However, water issues immediately arose.
“We had no engine hooked up to a hydrant yet so we were only able to operate the ladder pipe,” Hudgins said. “By the time we did get set up, an automatic fire door on the far side of the building had come down and we were not able to cut off the fire.”
Meanwhile, Hudgins ordered firefighters on another Waxahachie engine to connect to the building’s sprinkler system and pump into it.
“Due to the smoke, the firefighters had to use SCBA to reach the connection,” he said.
Responders maintained 150 psi pumped into the sprinkler system, but only temporarily. Less than 10 minutes into the fire, the roof and part of the plant’s back wall in Division C collapsed surrounding where flames had broken through that cherry red spot.
“About the time the back wall caved, the truck engine started to race to its maximum, telling us we had lost the sprinkler system,” Hudgins said.
MUTUAL AIDAmong the first mutual aid firefighters to arrive were engines dispatched from nearby Midlothian and Red Oak.
“I assigned the Red Oak engine to set up a ground monitor in Division D,” Hudgins said. “I sent the Midlothian engine to the A-B corner to prepare for a tower ladder en route from Ennis.”
Despite the heavy smoke pouring from the building across Division A and a small portion of Division D, no smoke or flames were visible in Division B.
“I was working from a spot in the back of the building where I couldn’t even see Division B,” Hudgins said. “I was nearly a quarter mile away.” Hence, a Waxahachie assistant chief took charge of Division B operations.
Two open loading dock doors faced east at the top of a gradual incline designed for fork lifts. Midlothian moved into position first, setting up their deck gun as a ground monitor. Firefighters decided to connect the supply line to the Ennis tower ladder when it arrived.
With Ennis on scene, the plan was to start sweeping through the open doors from the extended bucket of Ennis’ Tower 9, a 22-year-old Sutphen TS100. The truck was affectionately known as “Doll” by the Ennis firefighters.
The 104-foot tower maneuvered into position perpendicular to the doors. Care was taken to point the truck toward Division A so it could drive straight out in the event of trouble, Hudgins said.
Not long after the aerial extended its bucket with two firefighters aboard a Midlothian assistant chief serving as safety officer noticed something unsettling, Hudgins said.
“Fire was visible at the far end of the building,” he said. “Inside the building we had a bunch of mobile totes, anywhere from 300 to 500 gallons each, made from plastic,” Hudgins said. “The radiant heat began to melt the plastic, dumping the mineral oil inside.”
Although the oil did not immediately ignite, it began moving toward the Division B doorway in a wave, Hudgins said. Events moved so quickly that Midlothian never got the chance to charge its ground monitor.
The safety officer immediately ordered the firefighters to lower the aerial and evacuate the alley between Division B and an outdoor storage area for even more plastic totes.
Firefighters managed to rescue the bucket’s occupants. The tower ladder itself could not be saved.
“By the time they could get the firefighters out of the bucket the liquid ignited,” Hudgins said. “Luckily we got the firefighters out with no injuries.”
With Doll enveloped in flames, the burning liquid continued flowing east. Immediately beyond the burning truck was a storage area filled with bucket-shaped totes. Two aluminum tank trailers were parked next to the totes. Beyond that were 10 railroad tank cars parked on a siding.
Now about 30 minutes into the fire, Hudgins ordered an area evacuation. Waxahachie police, the Ellis County Sheriff’s Office and the Texas Department of Public Safety took charge. Police had already shut down U.S. Highway 287 and other roads surrounding the plant to give full access to emergency vehicles..."
Sin defender a nadie... he visto bastantes veces estos "totes" apilados en torres de hasta cerca 6-8 metros de altura. Puedo entender el efecto de no tener vision interior debido a las caracterizticas del incidente y podeer proyectar un colapso de aquellos "totes" con producto en el interior (status report/reconnaisance team). Da la impresion que al no saber sobre aquella ubicacion y apilamineto de los "totes", pensaron que el monitor de la mecanica iba a ser mas eficaz que uno manual o de piso, cual hace sentido... he visto varias veces mecanicas posicionadas de aquella forma y en algunas creo que se ha hecho mal (riesgo/beneficio). Por suerte y lo mas importante, no hubo muertos. Recuerdo si la lluvia acida par de dias despues del incidente.
En lo que respecta a incendios industriales aca al menos se ve desde otro aspecto: la cagada en su extension no es del FD pero si de la empresa. A ellos les cabe todo el peso de la ley. Interesantes reportes post-incidente se pueden encontrar en la internet respecto a este incendio especifico.
A hora, de regreso a San Francisco... esperemos aprender de lo que paso, aunque yo comparto la opinion de Nicolau y se repite en Houston.
Esto me lleva a preguntar lo siguiente:
Conocemos los famosos modos estrategicos que se aprende en el bomberismo estadounidense? que modos estrategicos saben/ensenian/utilizan bomberos en Chile?
"...INCIDENT COMMANDHudgins joined one of his engines on the west side and established incident command. Following standard procedure, he designated the main entrance side of the building facing north as Division A, the east side as Division B, the south side as Division C and the west side as Division D.
“I told one of my engines to set up an unmanned monitor to aim through a loading dock doorway about 10-to-15 yards east of what had been the cherry red spot,” Hudgins said. “That spot was now gone, with flames coming through the wall.”
Within six minutes of Hudgins’ establishing incident command, the gray smoke rising from the building began turning black. He grew concerned that the fire was spreading into different products, he said.
Putting firefighters inside the building was out of the question, he said. His first plan was to combine the unmanned monitor with a ladder pipe in the open doorway and hopefully confine the fire to the 20 percent of the building already affected. However, water issues immediately arose.
“We had no engine hooked up to a hydrant yet so we were only able to operate the ladder pipe,” Hudgins said. “By the time we did get set up, an automatic fire door on the far side of the building had come down and we were not able to cut off the fire.”
Meanwhile, Hudgins ordered firefighters on another Waxahachie engine to connect to the building’s sprinkler system and pump into it.
“Due to the smoke, the firefighters had to use SCBA to reach the connection,” he said.
Responders maintained 150 psi pumped into the sprinkler system, but only temporarily. Less than 10 minutes into the fire, the roof and part of the plant’s back wall in Division C collapsed surrounding where flames had broken through that cherry red spot.
“About the time the back wall caved, the truck engine started to race to its maximum, telling us we had lost the sprinkler system,” Hudgins said.
MUTUAL AIDAmong the first mutual aid firefighters to arrive were engines dispatched from nearby Midlothian and Red Oak.
“I assigned the Red Oak engine to set up a ground monitor in Division D,” Hudgins said. “I sent the Midlothian engine to the A-B corner to prepare for a tower ladder en route from Ennis.”
Despite the heavy smoke pouring from the building across Division A and a small portion of Division D, no smoke or flames were visible in Division B.
“I was working from a spot in the back of the building where I couldn’t even see Division B,” Hudgins said. “I was nearly a quarter mile away.” Hence, a Waxahachie assistant chief took charge of Division B operations.
Two open loading dock doors faced east at the top of a gradual incline designed for fork lifts. Midlothian moved into position first, setting up their deck gun as a ground monitor. Firefighters decided to connect the supply line to the Ennis tower ladder when it arrived.
With Ennis on scene, the plan was to start sweeping through the open doors from the extended bucket of Ennis’ Tower 9, a 22-year-old Sutphen TS100. The truck was affectionately known as “Doll” by the Ennis firefighters.
The 104-foot tower maneuvered into position perpendicular to the doors. Care was taken to point the truck toward Division A so it could drive straight out in the event of trouble, Hudgins said.
Not long after the aerial extended its bucket with two firefighters aboard a Midlothian assistant chief serving as safety officer noticed something unsettling, Hudgins said.
“Fire was visible at the far end of the building,” he said. “Inside the building we had a bunch of mobile totes, anywhere from 300 to 500 gallons each, made from plastic,” Hudgins said. “The radiant heat began to melt the plastic, dumping the mineral oil inside.”
Although the oil did not immediately ignite, it began moving toward the Division B doorway in a wave, Hudgins said. Events moved so quickly that Midlothian never got the chance to charge its ground monitor.
The safety officer immediately ordered the firefighters to lower the aerial and evacuate the alley between Division B and an outdoor storage area for even more plastic totes.
Firefighters managed to rescue the bucket’s occupants. The tower ladder itself could not be saved.
“By the time they could get the firefighters out of the bucket the liquid ignited,” Hudgins said. “Luckily we got the firefighters out with no injuries.”
With Doll enveloped in flames, the burning liquid continued flowing east. Immediately beyond the burning truck was a storage area filled with bucket-shaped totes. Two aluminum tank trailers were parked next to the totes. Beyond that were 10 railroad tank cars parked on a siding.
Now about 30 minutes into the fire, Hudgins ordered an area evacuation. Waxahachie police, the Ellis County Sheriff’s Office and the Texas Department of Public Safety took charge. Police had already shut down U.S. Highway 287 and other roads surrounding the plant to give full access to emergency vehicles..."
Sin defender a nadie... he visto bastantes veces estos "totes" apilados en torres de hasta cerca 6-8 metros de altura. Puedo entender el efecto de no tener vision interior debido a las caracterizticas del incidente y podeer proyectar un colapso de aquellos "totes" con producto en el interior (status report/reconnaisance team). Da la impresion que al no saber sobre aquella ubicacion y apilamineto de los "totes", pensaron que el monitor de la mecanica iba a ser mas eficaz que uno manual o de piso, cual hace sentido... he visto varias veces mecanicas posicionadas de aquella forma y en algunas creo que se ha hecho mal (riesgo/beneficio). Por suerte y lo mas importante, no hubo muertos. Recuerdo si la lluvia acida par de dias despues del incidente.
En lo que respecta a incendios industriales aca al menos se ve desde otro aspecto: la cagada en su extension no es del FD pero si de la empresa. A ellos les cabe todo el peso de la ley. Interesantes reportes post-incidente se pueden encontrar en la internet respecto a este incendio especifico.
A hora, de regreso a San Francisco... esperemos aprender de lo que paso, aunque yo comparto la opinion de Nicolau y se repite en Houston.
Esto me lleva a preguntar lo siguiente:
Conocemos los famosos modos estrategicos que se aprende en el bomberismo estadounidense? que modos estrategicos saben/ensenian/utilizan bomberos en Chile?
Criterio porque en Chile y supongo que en otros paises acercamos las maquinas en las zonas criticas sin pensar en lo que puede pasar. Riesgo para el personal y la perdida de material valioso.
Puse aca el video, debido a la cercania de las maquinas en la fotos del Incendio.
Fraternales Saludos